They fought for two sausages!
They send us to die for nothing in other peoples land and war like Iraq and Afghanistan. Now, they are packaging this monumental disaster as an act of heroism and symbol of nationalism!
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, Sandy Falknor wrote:
They fought for two sausages!
Maybe a reason was as to why they went to invade another country thousand miles away is to get one of those sausages to find out what their missing.
----- Original Message ----From: bruceksimTo: freeamericanow@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:54:53 AMSubject: [freeamericanow] Re: They fought for two sausages!
They send us to die for nothing in other peoples land and war like Iraq and Afghanistan. Now, they are packaging this monumental disaster as an act of heroism and symbol of nationalism!
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, Sandy Falknor
They fought for two sausages!
Maybe a reason was as to why they went to invade another country thousand miles away is to get one of those sausages to find out what their missing.
----- Original Message ----From: bruceksim
As I explained earlier Dopey, Australia was involved because we were a part of the British Empire at the time!! It was nearly 100 years ago you drongo!! The reason for the attempted invasion was to open the Black Sea to Russian shipping and to capture Constantinople. Both of which failed due mainly to the fact that the Turks had a very capable commander in Mustafa Kemal later to be known as Kemal Attaturk or Father of the Turks!You should do a bit of reading of your country's history sonny!!
Cheers Bruce
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "mamubhi" wrote:
Re: They fought for two sausages!
They fought for two sausages!
Dingbat bruce,
Stop calling names.
Turkey and Australia had no animosity towards each other on that time and today. Although people of your background have been engineering them all the time! Anyway, the mighty Turkish Empire realised on that time, the "Engiltara" (England) is getting ahead in technologically. So, as a part of technological exchange or trade, Turkey ordered two English warships and paid up the money in advance. Remember, the Europeans used to import Turkish and Arabic technology for many many years. However, stupid English took the money, constructed warships and then refused to hand them over to Turkey.
The opportunist Germans found out the debacle and said to Turkey, "how many free ships do you want and how many soldiers do you want under your command". In a very simplistic terms that's how they engineered a baseless war against the Turks.
Oh, don't try to patronise Faruque because eminent Professors of Australia admire his point of views and analysis. On the contrary, a hate merchant like you won't be able to pass a gate of any universities. They will escort you to lunatic asylums.
By the way, do you understand English and are you trying to make any attempt to understand Denis Kevans?
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "bruceksim" wrote:
Re: They fought for two sausages!
As I explained earlier Dopey, Australia was involved because we were a part of the British Empire at the time!! It was nearly 100 years ago you drongo!!
The reason for the attempted invasion was to open the Black Sea to Russian shipping and to capture Constantinople. Both of which failed due mainly to the fact that the Turks had a very capable commander in Mustafa Kemal later to be known as Kemal Attaturk orFather of the Turks!
Re: They fought for two sausages!
They fought for two sausages!
Dingbat bruce,
Stop calling names.
Turkey and Australia had no animosity towards each other on that time and today. Although people of your background have been engineering them all the time! Anyway, the mighty Turkish Empire realised on that time, the "Engiltara" (England) is getting ahead in technologically. So, as a part of technological exchange or trade, Turkey ordered two English warships and paid up the money in advance. Remember, the Europeans used to import Turkish and Arabic technology for many many years. However, stupid English took the money, constructed warships and then refused to hand them over to Turkey.
The opportunist Germans found out the debacle and said to Turkey, "how many free ships do you want and how many soldiers do you want under your command". In a very simplistic terms that's how they engineered a baseless war against the Turks.
Oh, don't try to patronise Faruque because eminent Professors of Australia admire his point of views and analysis. On the contrary, a hate merchant like you won't be able to pass a gate of any universities. They will escort you to lunatic asylums.
By the way, do you understand English and are you trying to make any attempt to understand Denis Kevans?
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "bruceksim"
Re: They fought for two sausages!
As I explained earlier Dopey, Australia was involved because we were a part of the British Empire at the time!! It was nearly 100 years ago you drongo!!
The reason for the attempted invasion was to open the Black Sea to Russian shipping and to capture Constantinople. Both of which failed due mainly to the fact that the Turks had a very capable commander in Mustafa Kemal later to be known as Kemal Attaturk orFather of the Turks!
You should do a bit of reading of your country's history sonny!!Cheers
Bruce
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Jude" wrote:
RE: [freeamericanow] Re: They fought for two sausages!
So my parents were silly and I was born long before the Beatles song came about LOL
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Jude"
RE: [freeamericanow] Re: They fought for two sausages!
So my parents were silly and I was born long before the Beatles song came about LOL
Jude
From: freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JodieSent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:13 AMTo: freeamericanow@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freeamericanow] Re: They fought for two sausages!
Really ?? A female ?? That's funny !! Good !! I do often feel outnumbered in here... ;)
Really ?? A female ?? That's funny !! Good !! I do often feel outnumbered in here... ;)
Jodie
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Jude" wrote:
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Jude"
No worry Jodie, I'm female LOL. He was trying to be condescending but hey who cares? Life is too short to get my panties in a knot over something so silly as Dear.
Jude
From: freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of JodieSent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:19 AMTo: freeamericanow@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freeamericanow] Re: They fought for two sausages!
Bruce,
Stop calling him "dear" !! Or I will begin to wonder about you !!
Speaking for myself, I don't know as much of the history of Australia as I would like to know, but I was not a history major (like you). It is difficult to keep track of the history of specific countries. No ONE person can possibly read All the history of the world. It would be impossible. Someone told me that once, and it is true.
Speaking for myself, I don't know as much of the history of Australia as I would like to know, but I was not a history major (like you). It is difficult to keep track of the history of specific countries. No ONE person can possibly read All the history of the world. It would be impossible. Someone told me that once, and it is true.
Jodie
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "jasonnash80" wrote:Re: They fought for two sausages!
I would like to know like many good Australians, why the hell Australia went to invade another country thousands of miles away from our homeland and for what purpose? What was the achievement? Was it another illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq of that time?
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Jodie" wrote:
Re: They fought for two sausages!
And how about "Where Eagles Dare" with Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton ?? And that other movie where Eastwood steals that fancy fighter aircraft from under the Russian's noses!!
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "austro_bangla" wrote:Re: They fought for two sausages!
Do you remember the movie The Guns of Navarone and all other propaganda continuum?
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "jasonnash80"
I would like to know like many good Australians, why the hell Australia went to invade another country thousands of miles away from our homeland and for what purpose? What was the achievement? Was it another illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq of that time?
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "Jodie"
Re: They fought for two sausages!
And how about "Where Eagles Dare" with Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton ?? And that other movie where Eastwood steals that fancy fighter aircraft from under the Russian's noses!!
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "austro_bangla"
Do you remember the movie The Guns of Navarone and all other propaganda continuum?
--- In freeamericanow@yahoogroups.com, "union_faruque" wrote:
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, it's on the kiddies' lips,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, the lovely battleships.
The flags of Empire flutter in the sky,
The tooters toot, and all the hooters hoot,
The bronzed colonials march away to die.
To shoot an enemy they're told to shoot.
Many have swapped a swag for this kitbag;
The sun is sinking, colour-patches blend
And melt together, like a chequered flag,
That turns blood-red, all bloody red at evening's end.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, you'll hear the kiddies sing,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, for country, God and King.
The bloom of youth lies shattered on this field,
Thick scrub drips with the resins of dying men,
Green flies glitter where the scalp has peeled,
All the King's medals for the boys again.
Calf and collar bones, white as porcelain,
Stick out of stinking curtains of meat,
And, full in the sunlight, a pulsing brain
Still throbs with the passion of the battle's heat.
Attention, Spring! wash out these battle tears,
The pain and courage goes in a dirty song,
I can hear colonials singing it down the years,
They'll fight our wars from Cape town to Saigon;
Stand easy, Summer! you have done your part,
The orchard's growing greener than the sea,
And to ease the Anzac mother's heart,
We've planted gum trees without any fee.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, you've often heard'em say,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, Australia's glory day.
They gathered up these hats and bags and guns,
They shipped them home across the boiling sea,
They let the Anzac's sons, and their sons' sons
See only what they wanted them to see.
They didn't want the pain to be displayed,
The anger or the loss, they scoured the mud
And filth from relics, holy-water sprayed,
They scrubbed off every drop of tell-tale blood.
Many have swapped a swag for this kitbag;
The sun is sinking, colour-patches blend
And melt together, like a chequered flag,
That turns blood-red, all bloody red at evening's end.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, you'll hear the kiddies sing,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, for country, God and King.
The bloom of youth lies shattered on this field,
Thick scrub drips with the resins of dying men,
Green flies glitter where the scalp has peeled,
All the King's medals for the boys again.
Calf and collar bones, white as porcelain,
Stick out of stinking curtains of meat,
And, full in the sunlight, a pulsing brain
Still throbs with the passion of the battle's heat.
Attention, Spring! wash out these battle tears,
The pain and courage goes in a dirty song,
I can hear colonials singing it down the years,
They'll fight our wars from Cape town to Saigon;
Stand easy, Summer! you have done your part,
The orchard's growing greener than the sea,
And to ease the Anzac mother's heart,
We've planted gum trees without any fee.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, you've often heard'em say,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, Australia's glory day.
They gathered up these hats and bags and guns,
They shipped them home across the boiling sea,
They let the Anzac's sons, and their sons' sons
See only what they wanted them to see.
They didn't want the pain to be displayed,
The anger or the loss, they scoured the mud
And filth from relics, holy-water sprayed,
They scrubbed off every drop of tell-tale blood.
They built a war-house up here in the hills,
In quiet and peace the people come and go,
None of the weapons scalds or cuts or kills,
None of the mines are ticking for a blow.
In quiet and peace the people come and go,
None of the weapons scalds or cuts or kills,
None of the mines are ticking for a blow.
They tell us why we fought, for what we died,
They tell us when to cheer, and when to cry,
They order us to wear their lies with pride,
And then they teach us quicker ways to die.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, itís on the kiddies' lips,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, the lovely battleships.
I know a man survived this holocaust,
On Thursdays, when the crowds in Martin Place
Gape at the ritual, and the drummer
Drums a base, he was surprised
As if by shells, as he walked past,
And stumbled at the sound of the sudden drum,
On his sleeve he wiped red whiskers
From his lungs, two hives of pain
From the whiff of gas he got, and then
He sucked breath in, like a crack
In tidal rocks, coughed
Harsh, and sharp, and loud,
Like a rifle shot, staggered
And nearly fell, while somebody nearby laughed.
Me, I don't need glory memorials for war,
Like dreams, this man's
My living, suffering cenotaph.And where are the diggers' voices, anyway?
They're squashed between the gilded
Official bray, and the scholar's "concise"
History. But there's a legend that may suffice,
They say that the scented halls
Of the war-house in Canberra, when the moon
Is bright and low, are filled
With a fierce shrieking, like a drunks' carouse,
Of shell-shocked diggers' screaming:
"No! Vote no! Vote no!"
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, you've often heard 'em say,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, Australia's glory day.
The flags of Empire flutter in the sky,
The tooters toot, and all the hooters hoot
The bronzed colonials march away to die,
To shoot an enemy they're told to shoot.
Many have swapped a swag for this kitbag;
The sun is sinking, colour-patches blend
And melt together, like a chequered flag,
That turns blood-red, all bloody red, at evening's end.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, it's on the kiddiesí lips
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, the lovely battleships.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, youíll hear the kiddies sing,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, for country, God and King.
Source: 'The Great Prawn War and Other Poems' 1982by Denis Kevans.
Source: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freeamericanow/message/45072
They order us to wear their lies with pride,
And then they teach us quicker ways to die.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, itís on the kiddies' lips,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, the lovely battleships.
I know a man survived this holocaust,
On Thursdays, when the crowds in Martin Place
Gape at the ritual, and the drummer
Drums a base, he was surprised
As if by shells, as he walked past,
And stumbled at the sound of the sudden drum,
On his sleeve he wiped red whiskers
From his lungs, two hives of pain
From the whiff of gas he got, and then
He sucked breath in, like a crack
In tidal rocks, coughed
Harsh, and sharp, and loud,
Like a rifle shot, staggered
And nearly fell, while somebody nearby laughed.
Me, I don't need glory memorials for war,
Like dreams, this man's
My living, suffering cenotaph.And where are the diggers' voices, anyway?
They're squashed between the gilded
Official bray, and the scholar's "concise"
History. But there's a legend that may suffice,
They say that the scented halls
Of the war-house in Canberra, when the moon
Is bright and low, are filled
With a fierce shrieking, like a drunks' carouse,
Of shell-shocked diggers' screaming:
"No! Vote no! Vote no!"
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, you've often heard 'em say,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, Australia's glory day.
The flags of Empire flutter in the sky,
The tooters toot, and all the hooters hoot
The bronzed colonials march away to die,
To shoot an enemy they're told to shoot.
Many have swapped a swag for this kitbag;
The sun is sinking, colour-patches blend
And melt together, like a chequered flag,
That turns blood-red, all bloody red, at evening's end.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, it's on the kiddiesí lips
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, the lovely battleships.
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, youíll hear the kiddies sing,
Gallipoli, Gallipoli, for country, God and King.
Source: 'The Great Prawn War and Other Poems' 1982by Denis Kevans.
Source: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freeamericanow/message/45072
